BB: Going back to the Murrieta incident. How do you think that Murrieta – specifically California, being so liberal and Democratic – and the fact that residents have taken a stand, how do you think that has impacted the immigration debate? That it’s not just coming from a red state?
Sheriff: Well, I don’t know how big Murrieta is, if it’s like this town [Ramona] here.
BB: It has about 110,000 people.
Sheriff: Today, I’m hoping there may be some demonstrations in the little town.
BB: (Laughing) There definitely will be.
Sheriff: So we may have a Murrieta here. Although, the only reason they would have one is because I’m speaking. I don’t think there’s any actions we’re doing. There’s no buses to stop. This little town here, almost like Murrieta on the map, has a group of citizens. Murrieta doesn’t represent California. It’s a group of citizens who got together. Murrieta doesn’t represent California. California is a state that doesn’t really enforce immigration laws. At least in Arizona, we do. Or we try. Arizona is a sanctuary state. So you got a little group of citizens angry and they want to do something about it. You got to give them credit. Because if you had them doing it here and around the state, you would see a big change. The perception, the politics and everything else. We need more Murrieta, as long as you do it peacefully and don’t violate the law. They have a right to speak out. We need more to speak out. I think we need to balance this out and the people need to show how they feel. If they can’t get their politicians to do anything, then they need to hit the streets and do it themselves. That’s why I’m interested here.
BB: I think this is great moral for the people in the area who have really decided to fight an issue. Just from the people who I’ve been around in Murrieta – even apathetic people – people who weren’t really into politics, they’re coming out. This is kind of the last straw with the Obama Administration.
Sheriff: Thanks to the President, he’s the one that should be getting credit. Because he really put his other hat on as far as public relations. Probably took a reporting course in Chicago, if that’s where he went. He thought this would be great public relations and it backfired.
BB: It did.
Sheriff: Because I’m sure he knew they [buses of women and children] were coming. Come on. How could you deal with Central America and all that and the CIA and ambassadors don’t know it? It’s pretty incompetent to know all of this is coming. He probably figured [just] let them come. He’s big on the DREAM Act. Let these kids in and let them roll all over the country, join their relatives – if there are any – or report to ICE. You really think they’re going to report to ICE?